Monday, September 8, 2014

Joan Rivers Interview 2007 for Folio Magazine

I had the great pleasure of interviewing Joan Rivers back in 2007 for Folio, the weekly paper in Jacksonville. At the time they didn't post content online, so I have taken my original text and re-posted it here. Enjoy.

Joan Rivers
By P.F. Wilson

Joan Rivers talks about life lessons, dealing with the paparazzi, and how she felt about having her Red Carpet gig handed to Star Jones.

Folio: Your latest vehicle is How’d You Get so Rich? on TV Land. How did that come together?

JR: They came to me while I was doing Celebrity Apprentice, and said “we’d think you’d be the ideal choice because you’re a good interviewer, you’re a lucky Lou, you’re a big mouth and you’re funny. The show is a combination of all three. We meet the people, find out how they got rich, which is always fascinating, then we get a chance to go into their houses, see how they spend their money, and what their toys are.

Folio: You’ve probably seen many a fortune gained and lost in Hollywood. Do you ever talk with these people and think “I dunno, is that the best way to spend all that money?”

JR: They all have one thing in common. They all have great energy and great belief in their product and worked very hard for it. No body is a sloth.

Folio: What about the gal that won the lottery?

JR: I spoke to her afterwards, and she’s already investing, she’s got a business going. [People that are smart], once they get money, they know the value of it, and they have great time with it. And they are all also very charitable.

Folio: There’s a documentary about you, Joan Rivers: A Piece of Work, coming out June 11. Did a film crew follow you around constantly?

JR: Yes, for a year and a half. The deal was I gave them total access, and they just followed me. I absolutely forgot they were there. After a year and half you get up in the morning and they’re they are.

Folio: Were there things you didn’t want in it?

JR: No, the deal was---and I was very glad to make that kind of deal---it was their choice. I hate (documentaries) where (the subject) has the final choice. Then it’s not an honest look. It’s the way the person wants to be perceived.

Folio: Speaking of people following you around, are you tired of TMZ?

JR: Let me tell you, we are so lucky to have the paparazzi want to take our picture, and anyone who doesn’t get that should go back to being a pizza waitress. “Oh, the paparazzi won’t leave me alone!” You know what? Go sell hats at Macy’s, then they’ll leave you alone. Never bothers me, seriously delighted to do it.

Folio: But trying to pick on Phil Donahue because he looks old, isn’t that a little mean?

JR: Isn’t everything? Let’s open up US Magazine and OK Magazine, or The New York Post. People love gossip and people love negative gossip, you know that. That’s the way of the world.

Folio: A lot of folks think you got a raw deal with E! and your Red Carpet coverage. Were you secretly happy when Star Jones bombed?

JR: Oh no, no, no. I was not secretly happy. I was obviously happy! Of course Everyone thinks it’s so easy. Geena Davis, they had her do it one year, and she gave out a statement to the press saying “I won’t ask ‘who are you wearing?’” Melissa and I were laughing. “Wait until she finds out how tough it is.” It took her two interviews to say “who are you wearing?” We were delighted to see her just fall on her face!

Folio: Why are people so surprised when you don’t know who they are? Hollywood’s a big town isn’t it?

JR: There are a 1000 channels if you have cable. We don’t know who everybody is. And we don’t know what everybody is doing. I think everyone should be polite and say “hello, I’m so and so.”

Folio: Or wear nametags.

JR: Wouldn’t that be nice? No, I don’t know who you are, I don’t watch Jersey Shore.

Folio: In college you studied anthropology. Did that help you in any way in Hollywood?

JR: (Laughs) No, but I just loved it. I always liked to think I could go back and do it. But it’s great when you travel as much as I do, as we all do in our business, (you say) “oh my gosh, I want to go see this, and I’m lucky enough to be able to go see (those things). I played Turkey and I got to see (the ancient city of) Ephesus, the ruins of Delphi---if I’d become an anthropologist, I might never have had a chance to see them. My other profession has brought me to places where I want to always go and look.

Folio:  Is it easier to be in comedy now because of all the outlets, or harder because there is more competition?

JR: I think in the old days it was much better because when you did land on the Carson show people saw you. Somebody can do 26 shots on Letterman, and no one knows who the hell they are.  Of course the Internet is changing everything. People come up with a viral video and they’re a star.

Folio: Do you have any energy for the Internet?

JR: I’m dying to do a late night talk show on the Internet, dying to.

Folio: You seem to fit so easily into different jobs, why is that?

JR: I just figure try everything. No one remembers the failures.  All you need each year is one success. Try everything, what’s the worst that could happen? I found out that I don’t like to direct by directing a movie (Rabbit Test). If I hadn’t tried that, I would have been all my life saying “I want to direct a movie.” Life is very fast, you go around once. Try.

Folio: How do you feel about the state of stand-up comedy today?

JR: I think it’s wonderful, you can talk about anything. Audiences are willing to hear hilarious things, they’re wide open.

Folio: And you have tons to talk about?

JR: Yes. Miss USA turns out to be a pole dancer? Thank you God. Ten minutes of jokes came into my head right away.

Folio: What’s your favorite topic these days?

JR: All these cheating husbands! Tiger Woods, Jesse James, what’s his name, from the Today Show.

Folio: You mentioned wanting to do an Internet talk show. Anything else on your showbiz bucket list?

JR: I’d love to go back to Broadway. I’ve never been in a real movie. Muppets Take Manhattan doesn’t count. Spaceballs doesn’t count.



Thursday, March 6, 2014

What if the USFL had Survived?

By PF Wilson

There’s a neat web series on NFL.com called The N “if” L. It’s produced by NFL.com analyst Dave Demeshek and offers different scenarios based on a particular event in league history being altered. There’s a great one called “What if ‘The Drive’ had Stalled?”

My favorite though is from 2012 called “What if the USFL Hadn’t Folded?” It’s interesting and pretty funny, but as an aficionado of defunct leagues, it got me thinking. I decided to really take a hard look at the premise, and here’s what I came up with.

In Demeshek’s universe, the USFL survives and moves to the fall. He points out accurately that the USFL had a lot of big stars, but he incorrectly states the league had a lot of cash. Some teams did, most did not, though they weren’t swimming in red ink like some of the teams that wound up folding, or almost all of the teams from the World Football League of the mid-70s.

Demeshek’s surviving USFL:

East                                             West
Baltimore Stars                              Arizona Wranglers*
Birmingham Stallions                      Memphis Showboats
Jacksonville Bulls                           Oakland Invaders
New Jersey Generals                     Portland Breakers
Orlando Renegades                        San Antonio Gunslingers

*I added Arizona, because Demeshek only pulls nine names out his USFL pog box in the video.

The problem with this line up is San Antonio and Portland were both broke. Oakland, even with the addition of a bunch of talented players from the Michigan Panthers saw attendance plummet. For the record, the original fall configuration for the USFL was to be as follows:

USFL 1986 (proposed)

Liberty Division                           Independence Division
Baltimore Stars                               Arizona Outlaws
Birmingham Stallions                      Jacksonville Bulls
Memphis Showboats                     Orlando Renegades
New Jersey Generals                     Tampa Bay Bandits

Many of the teams that played in the spring of 1985 either folded or merged instead of moving to fall. As early as 1984, when the move to fall was announced, teams were moving, folding or merging. This was the USFL in 1984 before the decision was made to move to fall.

USFL  1984:

Atlantic Division                          Southern Division
New Jersey Generals                     Birmingham Stallions
Philadelphia Stars                           Jacksonville Bulls
Pittsburgh Maulers                         Memphis Showboats
Washington Federals                      New Orleans Breakers
                                                      Tampa Bay Bandits

Central Division                            Pacific Division                
Chicago Blitz                                   Arizona Wranglers
Houston Gamblers                           Denver Gold
Michigan Panthers                            Los Angeles Express
Oklahoma Outlaws                          Oakland Invaders
San Antonio Gunslingers

Under my thesis, the USFL survives because it does not move to fall, despite Donald Trump’s insistence. Demeshek, by the way, alludes to the widely accepted belief that Trump killed the USFL, and he is spot on there.  This is also supported by the excellent ESPN 30 for 30 documentary Small Potatoes: Who Killed the USFL?

So here is what the USFL probably would have looked like in the spring of 1985, had the league not announced a move to fall play for the 1986 season.

1985 (Spring without fall move)

Atlantic Division                          Southern Division
New Jersey Generals                     Birmingham Stallions
Philadelphia Stars                           Jacksonville Bulls
Pittsburgh Maulers                         New Orleans Breakers
Orlando Renegades                      Tampa Bay Bandits
                                                               
Central Division                           Pacific Division
Memphis Showboats                     Arizona Outlaws
Houston Gamblers                          Denver Gold
Michigan Panthers                          Los Angeles Express
San Antonio Gunslingers                 Oakland Invaders

FOLDED/MERGED:  Oklahoma Outlaws, Chicago Blitz

The Outlaws still merge with the Arizona Wranglers, and the Chicago Blitz, who were near the bottom of the league in attendance and TV ratings are folded. Washington still moves to Orlando to become the Renegades. The Breakers don’t have to move to Portland, and can stay in New Orleans where fan support is strong. Same with Philadelphia. The league continues on into the spring of 1986 though a few more unhealthy teams succumb.

USFL 1986 (Spring no move to fall)

Eastern Division                          
New Jersey Generals                     
Philadelphia Stars                          
Pittsburgh Maulers                         
Orlando Renegades                        
Michigan Panthers

Southern Division
Birmingham Stallions
Jacksonville Bulls
New Orleans Breakers
Tampa Bay Bandits

Western Division
Arizona Outlaws
Denver Gold
Houston Gamblers
Memphis Showboats                                   

FOLDED: Los Angeles Express, Oakland Invaders, San Antonio Gunslingers

The Express, under league control, limp to the end of the 1985 season and are folded. San Antonio, hampered by a tiny stadium and a cash-poor owner, are folded. The Oakland Invaders also disband. The league’s remaining teams are in fairly good shape financially and pretty well supported. Trump, frustrated that his suggestion about a fall schedule is dismissed, sells the Generals.

USFL 1987 (Spring)

Eastern Division                        
New Jersey Generals                     
Philadelphia Stars                          
Pittsburgh Maulers                        
Orlando Renegades                        
Michigan Panthers

Southern Division
Birmingham Stallions
Jacksonville Bulls
New Orleans Breakers
Tampa Bay Bandits

Western Division
Arizona Outlaws
Denver Gold
Houston Gamblers
Memphis Showboats

The USFL still signs enough big name players to compete with the NFL, and in 1988 the league plays its last spring season. However, this time the news is good.

USFL 1988 (Spring)

Eastern Division                         
New Jersey Generals-z                 
Philadelphia Stars                          
Pittsburgh Maulers-m                 
Orlando Renegades                     
Michigan Panthers

Southern Division
Birmingham Stallions
Jacksonville Bulls
New Orleans Breakers
Tampa Bay Bandits

Western Division
Arizona Outlaws
Denver Gold-z
Houston Gamblers-z
Memphis Showboats

(Will join NFL. Will join WLAF, m-moves, z-merges)

Following the 1988 season, the USFL could have simply continued on, but more likely the NFL sues for peace. As part of the deal, several of the USFL franchises will join the NFL and begin play in the fall of 1990. However, after six seasons spring football is fairly popular and the NFL knows this. To prevent another spring circuit from popping up and causing the league grief the NFL forms the World League of American Football (WLAF) to also begin play in 1990, but in the spring (one year earlier than the non-USFL timeline). The WLAF takes 5 USFL teams and also expands into Europe with franchises in London, Barcelona, and Frankfurt. In the US though, things are tricky as teams are moved and folded, and one NFL relocation is altered.

In 1988 Bill Bidwell looking for a new home for his St. Louis Cardinals cannot move the team to Phoenix, because the Outlaws are already there and about to join the NFL. As part of the merger agreement, Bidwell moves the team to Baltimore. The USFL Stars who were eyeing a move to Maryland as part of their migration to the NFL, are forced to move instead to Charlotte. They also absorb the Generals. Denver merges with Jacksonville who joins the NFL. Birmingham and Memphis also join the NFL, swelling the league to 34 teams.

In 1989 there is no spring football. In the spring of 1990 the 5 remaining USFL teams (the Pittsburgh Maulers are sold and move to Sacramento to become the Surge) join the WLAF and continue to play in the spring.

Former USFL teams 1990

Charlotte Stars, Birmingham Stallions, Jacksonville Bulls, Arizona Outlaws, and Memphis Showboats join the NFL.

WLAF 1990
London Monarchs, Barcelona Dragons , Frankfurt Galaxy, Orlando Renegades, Michigan Panthers, New Orleans Breakers, Tampa Bay Bandits, and Houston Gamblers along with the Sacramento Surge (the former Pittsburgh Maulers) form the WLAF. The Montreal Machine are also added to round the circuit out to 10 teams.

CFL Expansion into the US.

In the early 1990s many CFL teams were in trouble. With the folding of the Montreal Alouettes in 1987, the league was down to 8 teams and almost all of them were struggling financially. A new wave of owners hired Larry Smith as commissioner with the understanding he would seek expansion south of the border. But with a larger NFL and a stronger WLAF, opportunities would have been limited.

Originally the CFL placed teams in Baltimore, Sacramento, San Antonio, Las Vegas, Shreveport, Birmingham, and Memphis, though not all at the same time.

With the USFL/NFL merger, the CFL still expands into the US, but instead winds up in Portland, Las Vegas, San Antonio, Shreveport, Syracuse, and Miami. The US experiment still ends with all but one of the teams folding. However, the move still saves the CFL. It still takes a few more years for the league to get back on solid financial footing, but the influx of much needed cash provided by the expansion fees buys the CFL time.

The Montreal Machine of the WLAF move to Columbus, Ohio to become the Ohio Glory, paving the way for the CFL’s Portland franchise, the only surviving US team, to move to Montreal and become the new Alouettes.

Los Angeles Rams and Los Angeles Raiders
In 1995 the Rams leave Los Angeles for owner Georgia Frontiere’s hometown of St. Louis, and the Raiders head back to Oakland.

The Jacksonville Jaguars and the Carolina Panthers
These teams never exist as the Bulls and Stars are already in those two cities.

The San Antonio Browns
In 1996, Art Modell, dissatisfied with the lack of progress in getting a new stadium built in Cleveland, moves the Browns to a city that built a new stadium just three years earlier: San Antonio, recently abandoned by the CFL. Cleveland still sues, and is awarded the “new” Browns who being play in 1999. Modell’s team changes its name to the Riders.

The Los Angeles Panthers
Also in 1996, the WLAF’s Michigan Panthers move into the Coliseum in Los Angeles, while the WLAF adds a team in Scotland to take Michigan’s place. The Rhein Fire also joins the WLAF.

The Houston Oilers
In 1997, the Oilers move to Tennessee, but this time there is no layover in Memphis. The team heads straight to Nashville and plays at Vanderbilt’s stadium until a new facility can be built.
                                                                                                                               
The Houston Texans
In 2002 Houston returns to the NFL with the expansion Texans.

The XFL
Never happens.

The NFL and WLAF Today

NFL

AFC EAST                                                                                           
Buffalo Bills                                                                                    
Miami Dolphins                                                                               
New England Patriots                                                                      
Jacksonville Bulls                                                                             
New York Jets        

AFC NORTH
Cincinnati Bengals
Cleveland Browns
Indianapolis Colts
Pittsburgh Steelers                                                                           

AFC SOUTH                                                                                 
Birmingham Stallions                                                                        
Houston Texans                                                                          
Memphis Showboats                                                                       
Tennessee Titans                                                                             
San Antonio Riders

AFC WEST
Denver Broncos
Kansas City Chiefs
Oakland Raiders
San Diego Chargers


NFC EAST                                                                                  
Baltimore Cardinals                                                                       
Dallas Cowboys                                                                               
New York Giants                                                                             
Philadelphia Eagles                                                                           
Washington Redskins

NFC NORTH
Chicago Bears
Detroit Lions
Green Bay Packers
Minnesota Vikings

NFC SOUTH                                                                                 
Atlanta Falcons                                                                               
Charlotte Stars                                                                                
New Orleans Saints                                                                         
Tampa Bay Buccaneers                                                                   
                                                                                                                         
NFC WEST
Arizona Outlaws
Los Angeles Panthers
St. Louis Rams
San Francisco 49ers
Seattle Seahawks

WLAF

EUROPE                                                                                                               
Amsterdam Admirals                                                         
Barcelona Dragons
London Monarchs
Scotland Claymores
Rhein Fire

NORTH AMERICA                                                                
Tampa Bay Bandits                                                             
Ohio Glory
Sacramento Surge
Orlando Renegades
New Orleans Breakers

Another Scenario: The Out-of-Court Settlement Merger 1986/87

With the lawsuit looming in 1986, and with one of its owners (Al Davis) about to testify for the plaintiffs, the NFL discusses the idea of absorbing several of the USFL franchises. There’s only one problem. They don’t want Trump.

In this timeline, with The Donald removed from the equation, the NFL takes the Baltimore Stars, Birmingham Stallions, Memphis Showboats, the Jacksonville Bulls, the Arizona Outlaws and perhaps the Bandits, though they would have to move. New Jersey isn’t included because three teams would have to share one stadium and neither the Jets nor Giants want a direct competitor getting in the way of their monopoly.

This predates the Cardinals departure from St. Louis, and with his back-up markets also taken, the Cards either stay put or, more likely, wind up in Charlotte.



Wednesday, February 12, 2014

P.F.’s Top 40 Songs of 2013


Sorry it’s a little late. And I won’t bore you with a lot of editorial comment, but it was another good year for tunes. It was a 3 team race for the top, won out by Scotland’s very fine CHVRCHES. Enjoy!


Oh, and if you go to this episode of the podcast, you can hear FanGirl and I count down our respective Top 5s.

1. “The Mother We Share” - CHVRCHES
2. “The City” – The 1975
3. “Fred Astaire” – San Cisco
4.  “Magnetic Eyes” – Matrix and Futurebound
5. “Harlem” – New Politics
6. “Diane Young” – Vampire Weekend
7. “This is What it Feels Like” – Armand Van Buren
8. “Night Cafe” – OMD
9. “Counting Stars” - OneRepublic
10. “Spark” -  Afrojack
11. “Somewhere Only We Know” – Lily Allen
12. “Top of the World” – Imagine Dragons
13. “Right Action” –Franz Ferdinand
14. “Metroland” - OMD
15. “Stay Out” – Nina Nesbitt
16. “The Beach” – San Cisco
17. “Chocolate” – The 1975
18. “Midnight Run” – Andy Hawk & The Train Wreck Endings
19.  “I Always Knew” – The Vaccines
20. “Safe and Sound” – Capital Cities
21. “Skip to the Good Bit” – Rizzle Kicks
22. “Live and Die” – Avett Brothers
23. “Why Am I The One?” F.U.N.
24. “Shiver” – Walk the Moon
25.  “House of Gold” – Twenty-one Pilots
26.  “Sad Night, Where is Morning” – The Ocean Blue
27.  “Love is a Bourgeois Construct” – Pet Shop Boys
28. “24 Hours” –Sky Ferriera
29. “Unbelievers” – Vampire Weekend
30. “When Can I See You Again?” – Owl City
31.  “The Pit” – Silversun Pickups
32. “Recovery” – Frank Turner
33. “Lightning Bolt” – Jake Bugg
34. “Strawberry Smile” – Andy Hawk & The Train Wreck Ending
35. “Dear Darlin’” –Olly Murs
36. “Somewhere to Hide” – Shiny Toy Guns
37. “Anna Sun” – Walk The Moon
38. “Still Into You” - Paramore
39.  “Helen of Troy” - OMD
40. “Shooting Star” – Owl City



Monday, February 10, 2014

Daily Currant Writer Found Dead after Writing Sochi Engineer Found Dead Story

By PF Wilson

The story spread like wildfire across the Internet this past weekend, after news broke Saturday morning that the engineer responsible for the glitch during the Winter Olympic opening ceremony in Sochi had been found dead.


After one of five snowflakes failed to turn into the final Olympic ring, the Russian hosts were red-faced, as it were. Then Saturday morning, the Daily Currant ran the piece about the engineer. For almost a day the Internet and social media in particular, were abuzz with the bazaar tale of how he met a gruesome end after apparently embarrassing his homeland. However, it all turned out to be hoax, perpetrated by the Daily Currant; a hoax that went viral.

Many Internet experts, social media gurus, and garden-variety know-it-alls snickered about how the public was once again hood-winked  by a hoax news story. Few were surprised though, as people across the web constantly fall for made up news stories from The Onion, Daily Currant, Ross Rants, and Fox News.

Russian officials were not amused by the hoax though, and insist that the real engineer is alive and well and working on a special project in Barnaul, Siberia. However, the writer who penned the fake news story was found dead Sunday night. As word spread out across the Internet of the writer’s demise, local law enforcement said no one had contacted them for details, and they were pretty sure that no such incident had actually taken place. Still many speculated about the writer’s possible death.


A spokesman for Russia’s satirical newspaper The Radish said it demonstrates the danger of poking fun at the wrong things. “But the Russian people took no offense at the story about the engineer. We have great sense of humor. We laugh at the same things you do. You laugh at President Obama,” he said and then paused before adding: “We laugh at President Obama.” He then vehemently insisted that the Russians were not involved in the writer’s death. Two Russian nationals were questioned a few blocks from the Daily Currant’s headquarters, but were released after telling the FBI that they knew nothing about a fake news story, or satirical news website, and were merely looking for “moose and squirrel.”

Pattie Wilson also reported on this story.